Kaveh نوشته: ظاهرا جز متهم کردن بنده به ناآگاهی از تاریخ استدلال دیگری ندارید.

Kaveh نوشته: جالب است که خود را بی طرف نشان می دهید اما همین سایت آخری که معرفی کردید کاملا یکجانبه به ماجراها نگریسته به صفحه معرفی نویسنده دقت کنید...

Kaveh نوشته: می توانم ده تا سایت مقابل این سایت آورم که از سوی طرفداران فلسطین راه انداخته شده به همین ظاهر مستحکم و قوی

Kaveh نوشته: عزیزم اینکه مطلبی در سایتی نگاشته شود هر چقدر سایت عظیم و با کلاسی باشد اعتبار بخشی به آن نمی کند.

Kaveh نوشته: تمام مطالبی که بنده از تاریخ نقل کردم نه دیدگاه شخصی بلکه نقل قول مستقیم از ویکیپدیا بود.

Kaveh نوشته: اگر با آن آشنایی داشته باشید می دانید که چقدر ویرایش مقالات پر حساسیتی چون این موضوعات با حساسیت و دقت انجام می شود و کلمه به کلمه آن زیر ذره بین است. بد نیست سری به آنجا زده و تاریخ را بار دیگر به درستی بخوانید.

Kaveh نوشته: در مورد ادعاهای اثبات نشده بنده هم بفرمایید کدامها هستند مدرک ارائه کنم.

Kaveh نوشته: راستی : فقط یک مورد از اشتباهتان در پست فوق را پاسخ دهم, فرمودید دلیل و هدف قیومیت انگیس بر فلسطین تشکیل کشور یهودی بوده, متن قطعنامه هست:

Kaveh نوشته: اگر بخواهیم متمدنانه فکر کنم مالکیت متعلق به مردمانی است که جد اندر جد ساکن جایی هستند.
و نه کشور فاتح (عثمانی). عثمانی مغلوب و اتحادیه ملل که هر یک به دنبال منافعی
بوند Mandate of Palestine را تنظیم کردند. تا کشوری برای یهودیان ایجاد شود.

Kaveh نوشته: ...بقیه اش که کشک حساب شده

Kaveh نوشته: جالب اینکه در سایت معرفی شده شما جایی داشت توضیح می داد که اصلا این کلمه فلسطین یک myth است و فلسطینیها آن را در سالهای اخیر برای اعتبار بخشی به تشکیل کشور مستقل فلسطین از خود در آورده اند.... چه کسی دچار ناآگاهی عمیق است؟

نقل قول:

In a report by His Majesty’s Government in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to the Council of the League of Nations on the administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan for the year 1938, the British made it clear: Palestine is not a State, it is the name of a geographical area.[SUP]13[/SUP]
Palestine is a name coined by the Romans around 135 CE from the name of a seagoing Aegean people who settled on the coast of Canaan in antiquity – the Philistines. The name was chosen to replace Judea, as a sign that Jewish sovereignty had been eradicated following the Jewish Revolts against Rome.
In the course of time, the Latin name Philistia was further bastardized into Palistina or Palestine.[SUP]14[/SUP] During the next 2,000 years Palestine was never an independent state belonging to any people, nor did a Palestinian people distinct from other Arabs appear during 1,300 years of Muslim hegemony in Palestine under Arab and Ottoman rule. During that rule, local Arabs were actually considered part of, and subject to, the authority of Greater Syria ( Suriyya al-Kubra).[SUP]15[/SUP]
Historically, before the Arabs fabricated the concept of Palestinian peoplehood as an exclusively Arab phenomenon, no such group existed. This is substantiated in countless official British Mandate-vintage documents that speak of the Jews and the Arabs of Palestine – not Jews and Palestinians.[SUP]16[/SUP]
In fact, before local Jews began calling themselves Israelis in 1948 (when the name “Israel” was chosen for the newly-established Jewish State), the term “Palestine” applied almost exclusively to Jews and the institutions founded by new Jewish immigrants in the first half of the 20th century, before the state’s independence.
Some examples include:
The Jerusalem Post, founded in 1932, was called The Palestine Post until 1948.
Bank Leumi L’Israel, incorporated in 1902, was called the “Anglo-Palestine Company” until 1948.
The Jewish Agency – an arm of the Zionist movement engaged in Jewish settlement since 1929 – was initially called the Jewish Agency for Palestine.
Today’s Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, founded in 1936 by German Jewish refugees who fled Nazi Germany, was originally called the “Palestine Symphony Orchestra,” composed of some 70 Palestinian Jews.[SUP]17[/SUP]
The United Jewish Appeal (UJA) was established in 1939 as a merger of the United Palestine Appeal and the fund-raising arm of the Joint Distribution Committee.
Encouraged by their success at historical revisionism and brainwashing the world with the “Big Lie” of a Palestinian people, Palestinian Arabs have more recently begun to claim they are the descendants of the Philistines and even the Stone Age Canaanites.[SUP]18[/SUP] Based on that myth, they can claim to have been “victimized” twice by the Jews: in the conquest of Canaan by the Israelites and again by the Israelis in modern times – a total fabrication.[SUP]19[/SUP] Archeologists explain that the Philistines were a Mediterranean people who settled along the coast of Canaan in 1100 BCE. They have no connection to the Arab nation, a desert people who emerged from the Arabian Peninsula.
As if that myth were not enough, former PLO Chairman Yasir Arafat also claimed, “Palestinian Arabs are descendants of the Jebusites,” who were displaced when King David conquered Jerusalem.
Arafat also argued that “Abraham was an Iraqi.” One Christmas Eve, Arafat declared that “Jesus was a Palestinian,” a preposterous claim that echoes the words of Hanan Ashrawi, a Christian Arab who, in an interview during the 1991 Madrid Conference, said: “Jesus Christ was born in my country, in my land,” and claimed that she was “the descendant of the first Christians,” disciples who spread the gospel around Bethlehem some 600 years before the Arab conquest. If her claims were true, it would be tantamount to confessing that she is a Jew!
Contradictions abound; Palestinian leaders claim to be descended from the Canaanites, the Philistines, the Jebusites and the first Christians. They also “hijacked” Jesus and ignored his Jewishness, at the same time claiming the Jews never were a people and never built the Holy Temples in Jerusalem.

Kaveh نوشته: اما اینکه کشور عرب فلسطینی قبلا بوده و یا نه! عجیب است! ظاهرا حرفهای مرا نمی خوانید. در نقشه مدرن دنیا چند کشور می یابید که قبلا وجود نداشته اند؟ اینها از کجا آمده اند؟